Fender Concert II
Model/Circuit Number: Concert 112, Concert 210, Concert 410, Concert Top
Years of Production: 1982 – 1987
Era:
Configuration: Combo, Head (83-87)
Controls: Black, forward facing w/ white labels
Knobs: Black skirted w/ chrome center, numbered 1 – 10
Schematics
Faceplate:
- Front: In 1, In 2, Vol (Pull for Bright), Treb, Bass – Vol (Pull for Ch Select), Gain, Master Vol, Treb, Mid (Pull for Boost), Bass, Reverb, Presense – Standby Sw, Power Sw, Pilot Lamp
- Rear: Fuse (2 1/2A), AC Outlet (Grounded, Polarized), Ground Sw (A/Off/B), Speaker (1/4”), Ex Speaker (1/4”), Line Out (1/4”), Return Level, Return (1/4”), Send (1/4”), Send Level, Reverb Out (RCA), Reverb In (RCA), Pedal Plain (1/4”), Pedal Red (1/4”), Hum Balance
Cabinet:
- Dimensions: Head: 23 5/8″ x 10 7/8″ x 11 1/4″, 1×12′ & 2×10: 23 5/8″ x 18 1/4″ x 11 1/4″, 4×10 Combo: 23 5/8″ x 25 3/8″ x 11 5/8″
- Hardware: Large Chassis Straps 5 5/8″
- Handle: Black Strap
- Feet: Glides
- Corners: Chrome Corners with Lip
Tolex/Tweed:
Grill Cloth:
Logo: Chrome & black script “Fender® Made in USA” w/o tail
Weight: Head: 39 lbs. 1 x 12: 57 lbs. (25.8 Kg) 2 x 10: 61 lbs. 4 x 10: 72 lbs.
Speaker:
- Size: 1×12, 2×10 and 4×10
- Impedance: Head: 8 Ohms 1 x 12″: 8 Ohms 2 x 10″: 4 ohms 4 x 10″: 4 ohms
- Model: (For more info, check out the Jensen Replacement Speakers)
Effects: Reverb, Channel switching
Watts: 60 watts
Tubes:
- Pre amp: 7025, Reverb Driver: 12AT7 Reverb Recovery: 7025 Effects Loop: 7025, Phase Inverter 12AT7 (long tailed)
- Power: 2 x 6L6GC
- Bias: Fixed
- Rectifier: Solid State
Comments:
Cabs available for Concert Top were (all open back w/ standard hardware): 1-12 OB: 23 5/8w x 16 1/2h x 11 3/8d, 8 Ohms, 27 lbs, 100 Watts Max 1-12 OB Deluxe (EV Speakers): 23 5/8w x 16 1/2h x 11 3/8d, 8 Ohms, 32 lbs, 200 Watts Max 2-10 OB: 23 5/8w x 16 1/2h x 11 3/8d, 8 Ohms, 30 lbs, 150 Watts Max 2-10 OB Deluxe (EV Speakers): 23 5/8w x 16 1/2h x 11 3/8d, 8 Ohms, 35 lbs, 300 Wats Max 4-10 OB: 23 5/8w x 24 1/4h x 11 3/8d, 8 Ohms, 53 lbs, 300 Watts Max, recessed side handles 2-12 OB: 26 1/4w x 16 1/2h x 11 3/8d, 8 Ohms, 35 lbs, 200 Watts Max 2-12 OB Deluxe (EV Speakers): 26 1/4w x 16 1/2h x 11 3/8d, 8 Ohms, 42 lbs, 400 Watts Max 4-12 OB: 26 1/4w x 28h x 11 3/8d, 8 Ohms, 59 lbs, 300 Watts Max, recessed side handles
Not as bad as their reputation.
I didn’t know that they had a bad reputation. This is the first time I’ve ever heard anything but glowing reports. I love mine for what it’s worth.
Extremely underrated amplifier. What this page doesn’t mention is that they are point to point handwired with transformers the size of volkswagons.
Owned mine since the 80’s, replaced the speaker (destroyed with guitar synth, my bad), power supply rebuilt – largely due to old age/dry caps – but otherwise for a 30 year old amp it’s a cracker! The reverb is particularly nice, gives a classic Fender clean sound and a nice crunch. I have the TAD small bottle 6L6WGC-STR’s in mine which sound a bit more ‘vintage’ and the amp is very quiet (in terms of unwanted noise and hiss). If you see one going for cheap second-hand, check it out.
Does any body know the rating of the speakers in the 2×10? I’m a multimeter brain donor……Are they 8ohm or 16ohm?
there 4 ohms each = 8 ohms
Jim
Each speaker is 8 ohms (not 4!). They are wired in parallel to produce a 4 ohm load, this is why the 2×10 version says “4 ohm min” on the back of the amp (I also checked each speakers impedance with a multimeter). Also there is an interesting switching mechanism that changes the amps impedance to 2 ohms when you attach an extension cabinet.
Thanx Slash1 – will get those Celestion Golds now I’ve been promising myself……….:-)
Hi John,
Question? I’m looking at getting a THD Hotplate for my 1985 Concert 4×10 combo. Would you know which one I should choose? I’m not sure. Here is the link: http://www.zzounds.com/item–THDHP
Thanks in advance,
Kris
No need . Use a volume pedal in the effects loop and you can get all the gain with as much or little volume as you want .
Speaker out on 410 is 8ohm not 4 ohm as quoted.
Thanks for the response. So, this would mean that I would purchase a THD 8ohm, yes?
What is a mint piggy back 80’s Fender Concert Amp worth???
I just picked a head up and have paired it with a 2X12 cabinet running Celestion G12H80s. The 12s are a bit mellower/rounder sounding than 10s, which are a bit edgier sounding. You can safely run Jensen C10Ns or Celestion Vintage 10s in this and probably won’t blow them up. Rivera was an EV fan. I think that’s overkill for this amp. It is plenty loud enough to play any gig. It kicks out 60 watts, the same as a Vibroking. The clean is wonderful and the reverb is strong. The gain channel is okay sounding, but I’m thinking I’ll use a Wampler Tweed ’57 pedal instead. So far, I have about $600 invested in this rig. The amp needs a new rear panel and new grill cloth. Some idiot put the wrong tolex on the cabinet the wrong way so that’ll have to be redone. It’ll be perfect for under $750. For the money, there isn’t a better deal in Rock ‘n’ Roll.
Just picked one up, 1×12″ Have about $500 invested. Great deal for a solid amp. Beautiful Fender clean, plenty loud. Not crazy about the overdrive, sounds a little harsh and fizzy to me, but will play around with it a little more.Not bad weight, not as heavy as a Twin I had. Reverb is great, Mine has original foot pedal to change channels,overdrive and reverb. I think I got a great deal on an awesome sounding amp. I like it much better with single coils than with humbuckers
Had had one for 8 years now. Love the clean, and I put the jack from a Strat in output two for pedal overdrive. Nice. I’ve invested $150 NOS tubes. It’s not louder than a Deluxe reverb now but a lot more nice bottom and 3D-sound coming from it.I think I’ll never sell it.
Back on the Concert II Train 🙂 Today scored a 4×10 in oakland CA for 450 on craigslist. It has been there for 2 weeks……… i am amazed by all the mods that seem to get discussed w/ this amp. this being 2016 i assume it needs cap job? the amp sounds great. i think i’ll just play it and not try and predict problems that might never happen….
I picked up the 210 combo model for $500 a couple of years ago. The guy had a cap job/resistor/power cord job done on it, but he was wanting a high-gain sound (and you’re not going to get it out of this amp), so he sold it to me. He had wanted the tech to hot-rod this thing, but (wisely) the tech said “hey, just get it fixed up-to-snuff like it should be and then sell it and buy a Marshall…” Anyway, I agree with most of the other opinions here as far as: 1) The clean channel is just great. Really good stuff. 2)The OD channel – I have fiddled with it a lot and have just not found a good warm, on-the-edge sound out of it. I’ve seen the adjectives “fizzy” and “harsh” mentioned, and I agree. I got better results out of patching the EFX loop and using that as an extra gain stage with the clean channel. I use a Vox ToneLab LE in front of it for several different tones I need to cover the material I perform, and it’s fantastic for larger venues and outdoor shows. For a small club, not so much since it is a LOUD amp, almost as bad as a Twin and it doesn’t even open up until about “2.5 – 3.0” and then it’s in-your-face. They seem to appreciate in value (one was at a local music store for $1100), so if you can grab on up for $500 – $600, do it.
Got a ’83 Concert, with 2 non-original 8-ohm 10″ speakers. Label on speaker jacks says 8 ohms minimum load, which would require 2 16-ohm speakers in parallel for a perfect match. Schematic I’ve seen on-line indicates an output transformer connection could be changed for a 4-ohm-minimum (2 8-ohm speakers) output. Glad I found this site–it got me thinking I need to check the output transformer wiring to see if it matches the 2 x 8-ohm speaker configuration.
im listing mine on ebay tonight. it’s going to suck.
The best combo amp for what I can afford. Compact although a little heavy. Powerful amp when cranked and a deep reverb. Works for me.
Picked up a 4×10 version a few days ago and it’s hands down one of the best sounding amps I’ve had and I’ve had dozens over they years. This had a set of warehouse vintage speakers in it but apart from that is stock. Better than my 63 Super, better than my 64 Deluxe. After 30 years or more I’ve realised this vintage sounds best stuff is a bit of a wank. Sure IT CAN but often the gear is just old and crap sounding yet people pay a fortune for it. I’ve learned the hard way by going through tens of thousands that it’s all about personal choice. What sounds good to you.
I have a Fender Concert 4 x 10 purchased new back in 1983. I can’t find any references to the 4 x 10 model. I’m curious as to its worth today.
Hi Cal,
I believe the ones that came out during that time period were the Fender Concert II amps. I have a 1983 Fender Concert II. Take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0GbxES0Epg
If you look at the stats up above you should find that it matches what you have.
http://ampwares.com/amplifiers/fender-concert-ii/
Also, make sure to look inside the speaker cabinet and on the back of the cabinet for OHMS and Watts.
Mine says 8 Ohms with 60 W
Look up “Concert ll”.
I had one of these in late 80’s I regret selling my concert ii even more than selling my 64 tremolux head. a neat trick I discovered to warn it up at low volume was to a cable in the effects loop and run the clean and dirty chan volumes up really high and then used the fx loop vol controls to bring the preamp level down going into the power section. worked really good on the clean chan to get that dynamic breakup at super low stage volume.